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Gazza_AZ 9:02 Thu Sep 12
September 11th, a personal story
I have lived in the States now for almost 30 years. I have a 24 year old American Son, of an American Wife, from Pennsylvania, and I only visited the World Trade Center once.
But, it was on September 1st, 2001. England had beaten Germany 5 to 1 In the Olympic Stadium in Munich. I was visiting the New York office of Alliance Consulting, a Company of my employ at the time.
On September 11th, I was supposed to fly from Phoenix to Columbus Ohio. To conclude a consulting engagement, conducted by three members of my Data Management team. A 6 week quick profiling of business competitors, and technologies and investment strategies.
But all of the planes were grounded, and there were no planes leaving the ground, planes in the air , turned around and headed back. No Air Traffic. My god the controllers have gone mad, I thought.
So imagine my horror at hearing first on the radio, and then on the tele that the World Trade Center had a plane flown into it, but it might only be that the NY Air Traffic Control crew, was overtired, overworked, underpaid, and suddenly losing it, (and direct planes into buildings) - well it was CNN - so you take it with a pinch of salt.

Fortunately, I thought, the Alliance Office is in the other building. Boy, I remember thinking at the time, They had better hurry and get out of there.

Well seems like a long time now, thinking about it. But I was watching on tele as they showed closeups (yes TV stations had helicopters in the air, filming). of the second plane flying into my Tower. Yes, the one - where I had just met the Office staff for the first time, ten days previous.
I was introduced to every single one of them, a visitor from Arizona. Fe Fi Fo Fumb - I smell the blood of an Englishman. Annoying the hell out of them, not wanting to know the score of the game, because it was taping - and I was to watch it later that night. They likely would not have cared, except I may have mentioned it once or twice during the day. Especially on the Sales Call. Me , an Englishman, selling to a New Yorker...(luverly).

I had plans to return, after the gig with Columbus had concluded. A Project Scoping presentation, based upon the one I presented at the sales call.

So anyway, after the sales call, and returning to the 102nd floor ,[http://interactive.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Tenant-List.htm] and hiding in an Office. Likely answering emails for 3 hours. Away from the window, but not the swaying.

Thinking about watching the England, Germany game later at the Hotel.

Well I didn't watch it at the Hotel. The Salesman , Dave, had bought some beers and some pizza (and some merlot wine for me), and most of the Office staff stayed after 5pm (They normally work until 9pm) - but it was when I was leaving. And we watched my (advanced tech at the time) a link to watch a recording, on my computer. Thanks to VPN and Unix. We watched it on the largest computer screen I had ever seen (and I've been to mission command for satellites) . Most of them knew the result, and had been busting a gut, to tell me all afternoon, But - watching it on a large Tele, in a swaying building, with twenty (truly strangers, whom I was meeting for the first time. I don't even remember all of their names today. I am sure I could get them off the internet/ world wide-mostly web thingy)

I sure remember the game. Owens Hat-trick; Gerrard, Heskey's coup de grace in the 74th minute. England 5 GERMANY 1, in Munich. I was beside myself, figuratively, and literally.

And then 10 days later, a plane fly's into My building, I hadn't met our President before (Alliance Consulting), and I didn't meet him that day either - he was out meeting clients, or prospects as they say, (in that peculiar New York accent).

He wasn't in the Office either on September 11th. He had been out with Prospects the night before (at the Yankees game) and didn't make it in, before the plane struck. I did meet him like 16 weeks later. He had sold the company - and was semi-retiring to be with his family.

I left Alliance, a year or two later, because it wasn't the same company that I had joined.

But this is the Story I wish to relay.
On September 11th, Alliance Consulting, headquarters in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania receives a call from the New York Office.
They go onto speakerphone at the large Corporate Table, with speakers relaying from the New York Office. Who are calling from the large glass bowl, meeting room. You can see the New York skyline, from Above from the reception area.

It made me sick to my stomach, sway, sway sway. It was worse than being at sea. And I don't like heights (imagine). But a few Miller Lites, after the nice bottle of Merlot had gone (maybe one or two too many in the second half ), and 3 slices of New Yorks finest Pizza (delivered).

I slept at the Hotel, and caught a 9am flight returning to my home in Phoenix,Arizona. Expecting to return and see everybody, a month out. Arizona where my Alliance Office team, met with disbelieve the next day, as we were recounted the story from the many friends that we each had at the HQ in Philly.

10 days later I heard this story

" A plane has hit WTC1 and they are telling us to not panic, and to not leave the building.We are on lockdown, elevators are going down, and they are clearing the area under us.
[ Ed - one of the busiest subway stations in New York, was WTC Plaza]

The Philadelphia office staff, whom I had met a few times. My wife's family lived "Up the Street" (120 miles away). Talked reassuringly to the New York staff on the 102nd floor of the World Trade Center Building 2. Telling them that surely this was for the best. An orderly evacuation, instead of a stampede. Floor by Floor from the Top down.[There were lots and lots of Elevators (32 / 64) , some facing out, so that you see New York below you as you ride up up up, up, up, up , to the 102nd floor. It isn't even the top, and I didn't want to go, even when the receptionist offered to use a special key and ride with me up. "I don't plan on looking out of the Window." I quipped as I was staring (gaping) at the Glass Bowl conference room - and at the roofs (sic) of tall buildings, oh, there's the Chrysler Building, oooH the Empire State Building (thought that was taller than that)....

Anyway, yes I did look. And that was when I felt the swaying. Ears not Eyes - felt betrayed... IT WAS WEIRD... unforgettable.

Replies - In Chronological Order (Show Newest Messages First)

Westham67 9:14 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
Cheers must have been one those days you don't forget. Mine is the 2004 boxing day Tsunami

bruuuno 10:14 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
The inane ramblings of a mad man. Why go to the trouble of writing such a long post that doesn’t even make sense?

cholo 10:18 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
bruuuno


You mean you actually got to the end of that shit?

Hallerinthemorning 10:29 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
My personal story involves being drunk in Reading with about 300 other west ham fans watching the news on a big screen in the pub and worrying if the game would be cancelled. It wasnt..

Takashi Miike 10:34 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
mine is following through after farting at a christmas party in the city, very traumatic that, especially for the other party goers

ChillTheKeel 10:36 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
I once woke up naked next to a smack-head tart from Dundee.
Pray for me.

BRANDED 10:36 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
Mine was eating oysters last night. Very fucking dangerous.

ChillTheKeel 10:38 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
Look at what living in the USA for 30 years has done to the poor fucker.

Eddie B 10:39 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
What the fuck was that I've just tried to read? makes no sense at all.

Far Cough 10:51 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
I think this was written by the REAL Gazza?


All it needs is a bucket of fried chicken and a couple of fishing rods

bruuuno 11:05 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
Takashi Miike 10:34 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story

I sharted yesterday funnily enough, fortunately I was driving past a doctors surgery at the time so was able to pop in there and clean myself up in the bathroom.

cholo 11:06 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
This looks like it was written by some crude and primitive AI programme. I'm talking something that was programmed on a Vic 20.

Northern Sold 11:38 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
…. And the punchline is ????

What a fucking weird post… and that’s saying something re WHO….

ray winstone 11:44 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
I was really looking forward to reading this post, kin hell.....

Gavros 11:50 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
Reads like H P Lovecraft.

If H P Lovecraft was pissed up and had a really shit anecdote about working in data management in 2001.

Russ of the BML 11:56 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
So the story is that the poster was in the Twin Towers 10 days prior to the planes flying into them. And he also met people who were obviously killed when it happened.

Ok, thanks.

Coffee 11:57 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
In Merlot veritas?

Jim79 12:03 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
What the fuck is this??? apart from dealing with a company in the twin towers it has no relevance to 9/11, its just about being pissed on beer and merlot and eating too much pizza.

fucking sway sway sway??????????

Browno22 12:04 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
Though something interesting was going to happen. absolute shiite.

MY building? fack off

y2smif 12:31 Thu Sep 12
Re: September 11th, a personal story
Just because Tarantino uses non-linear storytelling, doesn't mean you should

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